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[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

[Nasuti seems to be a regular fixture on the network, isn't she? Hopefully she's not getting on your nerves. She's just an inquisitive young lady. Humor her?]

So I heard that some of you have decided to test fate when it comes to the lives of those you know. That's none of my business, really, but I do really want to know...

For those of you that have spared someone a deadly fate, how did it affect your world's history? Did the thing they died for end a different way?

...I guess what I'm wondering...has saving anyone's life caused...negative repercussions?

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[unluckychimera.livejournal.com]

[Zelgadiss laughs quietly. Just a bit bitterly, too.]

Funny, I wondered the same thing, once. I missed my opportunity to find out, though.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

[Well, that's not all that helpful. But perhaps he did have something to share.]

So is it possible to be too late?

[unluckychimera.livejournal.com]

If you wait long enough, certainly.

In my case, it was that the world in question ended up disconnecting from the community before I took the opportunity, rather than having ended up waiting until the event in question took place.

... I knew it was going to because the world was another version of my own, a few years earlier. It's not something that happens often on the community, but it's been known to do so occasionally.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

I see. So it is a matter of the event passing in the other, earlier version of the world.

Say you have several instances of your world in touch with the community, each earlier. If you go into the earliest one, make changes, will it somehow affect the other two?

...I guess you can't be too sure, can you.

[unluckychimera.livejournal.com]

That's part of what I was worried about - I wasn't sure if it was really my world, or another that happened to be identical. I did my best to make sure the members of the community from that world never worked out who I was; it wasn't hard, since I looked a lot different at the time.

I know there are people who have prevented incidents that would have ended in another member's death, but as far as I know they've never done that to their own world. Partly because the timeline discrepancy happens so seldom, I think.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

I wonder if I will be able to get any definitive answers, then...it's troubling.

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[unluckychimera.livejournal.com]

Is yours on your world as well, then?

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[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

[Nasuti lies through her teeth.]

It's a theoretical question.

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[unluckychimera.livejournal.com]

[Zel humors her. Rather obviously.]

If you say so. Is the person being saved in the question on the same world as the one who would be doing the saving?

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[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

Same world, different points in time. Yes.

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[unluckychimera.livejournal.com]

Hm. Then my advice would be to think about the possible consequences carefully and consider if they think they can deal with having caused them. And whether they could deal with seeing it happen to someone else but not themselves, as well as whether they could deal with having it happen to themselves.

[cinnasteam.livejournal.com]

Those are some complicated questions! Is there someone you're worried about?

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

It's not that I'm worried. I already know how it goes.

[cinnasteam.livejournal.com]

But you wish to stop it from happening?

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

A part of me does. The other part dreads what the consequences may be.

His death was not in vain.

[cinnasteam.livejournal.com]

Messing with time does seem disastrous. It may be best just to respect the person's death and treasure the memories you had. It's hard loosing those that are close to you, but things happen for a reason.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

[Nasuti casts her eyes down, ashamed for even asking.]

Yes...yes, that was my initial thought.

[cinnasteam.livejournal.com]

Don't feel about about asking. It's something anyone would ask. There were people I wish I could have saved if I had the chance....now I'm learning to heal people.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

There was nothing I could have done to stop what happened.

[cinnasteam.livejournal.com]

[She frowns a bit.]

That's the same for me. Is there anything you can do to help honor the person's death? Perhaps, that will be the closer you need?

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

[Nasuti shakes her head.]

I thought I had closure. I really did.

...though...perhaps by seeing him again, I can get an idea on how to do that, otherwise.

[Nasuti's lips are pulled taut. This isn't the conversation she wanted to be having, but it was probably what she needed to hear.]

[cinnasteam.livejournal.com]

You got to see the person again? You are lucky to have had the chance! I would think that would be the best idea. Use this chance to get your closer. Perhaps, that person is seeking closer as well.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

You're right. I am very lucky. [Though honestly, she would have rather been without this temptation.]

[cinnasteam.livejournal.com]

I hope you are able to figure out what to do!

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[docfoul]

Quite a polemic matter in the community nowadays. If I could be surprised, I would.
You must keep in mind that every world works differently.

It's all good!

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

Are you implying that I shouldn't bother asking, then?

[docfoul]

Not at all.
You should be mindful of the answers, though.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

Was there any other way?

[docfoul]

Not everyone remembers to be so prudent.
In any case, carry on.

[redlikecrimson.livejournal.com]

That's a complicated matter to deal with. Not only is it about having power over life and death but it involves changing history as well.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

Do I need to be more specific? I did seem to ramble a bit up there.

[redlikecrimson.livejournal.com]

I don't think you do. Just that the matter is complicated.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

Stumped too, huh?

[redlikecrimson.livejournal.com]

Matters involving timelines are always complex. Even in the stories that have them. I know it's not anything I personally understand.

[urbandev.livejournal.com]

In many cases, that individual is the only one from their "world" and when they leave it, that world is no longer connected to the community.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

Could you please provide an example? Person A, Person B, that sort of thing?

[urbandev.livejournal.com]

In the case of my friend, the one I mentioned to you before, he was the only individual from his world. After he came to mine, his stopped being accessible via the community.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

[Nasuti sits back in her computer chair and sighs. That doesn't help her situation, since she's asking about timelines that are shared.]

But there is the possibility of others joining your own timeline permanently, then. Which would result in their absence from that point from which they left.

Disappearing, essentially.

[urbandev.livejournal.com]

Well, yes and no. It's hard to tell exactly, but it seems in situations where there are multiple people here from the same world but at different times, those worlds are actually separate. There was a time when many people from my world were on this community, all from different timelines. You couldn't visit me and see Yuffie, for instance; she was in my past. There already was a Yuffie in my world and she had no knowledge of the community.

If your world has any sort of afterlife, you could wait until after their death, so nothing changes, and then bring them forward.

Oh!

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

By the way, I would still like to take you up on that device tutorial. When would you be avaiable?

Oh!

[urbandev.livejournal.com]

I can make time at almost any point. Just let me know.

[yacantdoitkid.livejournal.com]

Nah. Same shit just keeps happening.

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

So thwarting the death of the person would have no effect on the timeline, then?

How can you be certain?

[yacantdoitkid.livejournal.com]

I guess you can't be. Fuck, I ain't a scientist!

[yagyu-nasuti.livejournal.com]

Even if you were, it's a difficult question.